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January 26Edit

Siege of MartyropolisEdit

Siege of Martyropolis (502) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The Siege of Martyropolis (502) article needs to be deleted, in my opinion. I tried to add the template, but it says "The template requires Substitution." I cannot resolve this, or figure out how to properly add the template and get the article recommended. Can someone help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silvertide goldwaves (talkcontribs) 04:55, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

@Silvertide goldwaves: Looks as if you've added the 'PROD' (proposed deletion) template correctly subsequent to posting here. If the prod is removed (and most editors can do so at their 'discretion') it should not be re-added but an alternative would be to follow the instructons at WP:AFD. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 06:26, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
@Silvertide goldwaves, enable WP:TWINKLE first, then it's as easy as adding a cite. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Does this minor edit look right to you guys?Edit

Was reading Just Enough Operating System and saw a See Also link about some software where the name was changed. Also development on that software was discontinued.

It should be fine how I wrote it, right? That line of the See Also list reads "Container Linux (discontinued)". — Preceding unsigned comment added by NomadicVoxel (talkcontribs) 02:36, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Edit looks fine, and the detailed summary helps a lot. I'm ambivalent about the 'minor' tag. ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 10:08, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
Oops, forgot ping @NomadicVoxel. ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 10:13, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Blazing SamuraiEdit

Hello. My name is ZX2006XZ. I have been editing an article about this film titled Blazing Samurai. Apparently, I have tried to keep the original poster in, while others decided not to. Since the file is close to deletion, is there a way for it to be exported to Wikimedia Commons? Thanks in advance.


ZX2006XZ (talk) 13:19, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

No. Commons doesn't accept 'fair use' content. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:22, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

So, what can I do to make sure the file isn't deleted? ZX2006XZ (talk) 13:26, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Nothing much, unless you can gain consensus to use it in the article. Discuss this on the article talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:36, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
You can try to discuss it at the article talkpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:03, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Request not completedEdit

I have added this request, but not yet completed. I am waiting since july 2020. The subsequent requests was completed. Why my request is ignored? I have added in the wrong page? --2001:B07:6442:8903:6455:65B4:A049:9D16 (talk) 14:54, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

It appears your request was fulfilled at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop#Ennio Morricone signature. GoingBatty (talk) 18:08, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

I wish to edit or remove my edit summaryEdit

Good day,

I have made contributions to the Narrative Designer page, which to my frustration keeps being wiped clean and edited by an unknown user named Fracone. This user keeps inserting the promotion of a particular person to this page without adequate proof that support their claim. I therefore wrongly assumed that these two persons are the same people.

In my latest edit I frustratingly added this description to my edit: "Restored original article. [person] (Fracone) edited the article again to refer to himself." -

(Name removed with [person] to protect the actual individual.)

Since I cannot prove my claim that said person is the same as the user I feel that I may violate privacy policies or that my edit is subject to slander. Though I stand by the content of my edit, I do not wish to wrongly accuse, insult or publicly blame any individual for the actions of another.

I again apologize for my rash behaviour and request that this description is removed from public view for the safety of all involved.

Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudolf Buirma (talkcontribs) 16:06, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

@Rudolf Buirma: I would say the best way is to just make a dummy edit and explain that in the summary. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 17:32, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
@Rudolf Buirma:, thanks for taking the initiative on this. You cannot change the edit summary, but an admin can change it for you. If you are worried that information in an edit summary might lead to outing someone, then you are right to ask here about this. Please go to Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests and pick an administrator there and email them. You can send an email by clicking on one of the names on that page, then looking over at the left sidebar, and clicking 'Email this user'. Good luck, Mathglot (talk) 02:00, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft not being published since last yearEdit

can you help publishing darft this draft is as it is since last one year and you can see there is alot of demand of this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrFiA (talkcontribs) 15:54, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

DrFiA, you have not resubmitted it for review. In September 2020 you moved it to main space (which was permitted, but unwise, as you were effectively asserting that the article is of sufficient quality to be in the encyclopaedia, after having been told that four previous versions were not. Another editor subsequently moved it back to draft space), removed the Speedy Delete (which was also permitted) and removed the four previous declined submission requests (which was unwise: these are important information for subsequent reviewers). I have restored the submission notices, which include the "Resubmit" button. If you believe that you have addressed the reasons for the declines please resubmit it. Note that Wikipedia is not at all interested in whether "there is a lot of demand of this page". --ColinFine (talk) 16:20, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
@DrFiA: In addition to the response above, I will urge you to be cautious with writing this draft, as you share the same initials as the subject, which suggests that you are writing about yourself. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:26, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
How can someone "see there is alot of demand of this page"? (talk) 06:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
There isn't a lot, but here's how you can see it. Mathglot (talk) 01:46, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, Mathglot. (talk) 06:28, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Just starting out.Edit


Where is the best place on Wikipedia to learn the basics for writing a contribution that falls within all the guidelines and rules for creation, submission, and know removal votes? I want to contribute correctly. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by LorenzoJ22 (talkcontribs) 15:58, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

LorenzoJ22 The new user tutorial is a good place to start. 331dot (talk) 16:06, 26 January 2022 (UTC)


How do I create pages easily on mobile?— Preceding unsigned comment added by AssumeGoodWraith (talkcontribs)

AssumeGoodWraith It is possible, but the app and mobile versions are more set up for reading than editing. When I am away from my computer I use the desktop version on my phone. 331dot (talk) 16:20, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello, AssumeGoodWraith. Like 331dot, I recommend using the fully functional desktop site on mobile devices. I have written many articles on my phone. You may be interested in my essay, User:Cullen328/Smartphone editing. Cullen328 (talk) 17:11, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Editing WebpagesEdit

How do you use references with webpages? TheAlienMan2002 (talk) 20:25, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

@TheAlienMan2002: You may want to look at Wikipedia:REFBEG for more information on citing webpages. If you use the visual editor, the cite function can automate most of the citation generation for you. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:29, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
@TheAlienMan2002: You can use {{Cite web}}. Look at WP:REFB for more info on referencing. RudolfRed (talk) 20:30, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
@RudolfRed: and @Tenryuu: Alright thanks. TheAlienMan2002 (talk) 20:45, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Creating a page on a notable figureEdit

How do I start a wikipedia page about a notable figure? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MiltonHilton76 (talkcontribs) 20:32, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

@MiltonHilton76: Hi there! Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you've never edited Wikipedia before. To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and The Wikipedia Adventure. I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills. Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather multiple independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and determine whether the person meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability". If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created. Hope this helps, and happy editing! (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) GoingBatty (talk) 20:59, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Tool which compares two pages and their editors in commonEdit

I seem to remember encountering a tool which compares two pages and lists all the editors in common (editors that edited both pages). Yet, I cannot for the life of me find it now. Am I just imagining there's such a tool or have my searching skills failed me? Melmann 21:37, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Melmann. There are several tools listed at Wikipedia:Editor Interaction Analyzer that may be useful to you. Cullen328 (talk) 01:29, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
@Cullen328: Thank you. That's not quite what I'm after, but it's the tool(s) I had encountered before, I was just misremembering how they worked. Appreciate your help. Melmann 08:55, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
I don't know if there is something available online, but I needed a tool like that too, so I wrote a small python ( script that scrapes the history of a page and prints all the user names. Then, from the commandline, I run a command like
comm <( article1 | sort | uniq) <( article2 | sort | uniq)
to print three columns: who edited article1, article2 or both. Feel free to email me if you need details. Vexations (talk) 12:20, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Edits to Errors in Citations of My "Shakespeare" Research = Deletion of All Mentions of My ResearchEdit

I made a few edits to the "List of Shakespeare authorship candidates" page: On December 18, 2021, a previous Wikipedia editor, Wham2001, had added this citation: "Percy, William, poet and playwright; proposed by Anna Faktorovich.[57]" And this citation: " British Renaissance Re-Attribution and Modernization Series" by Anna Faktorovich. Anaphora Literary Press. The format of Wham2001's citation was incorrect, as Wham2001 failed to add a bibliographic entry, like the one I added in my edit earlier today: Faktorovich, Anna (2021). Re-Attribution of the British Renaissance Corpus. Anaphora Literary Press. ISBN 979-8-49958-765-2. Wham2001 also failed to include separate candidate listings for the other 3 authors I attributed with "Shakespeare's" texts in my study that have not been previously mentioned by any other researchers: Josuah Sylvester, Gabriel Harvey and William Byrd. In my edit, I corrected the bibliographic error firstly (I am a subject-expert in this as I was granted a Bibliographic Fellowship with the Modern Languages Association, where I helped to edit the MLA Bibliography, so bibliographic errors bother me). I also added the other candidate listings with precise and accurate citations of who they are and what they wrote. Wham2001 had already cited my study, so I was not adding any new self-promotions, but merely correcting Wham2001's misunderstanding of my findings. But later today, Gråbergs Gråa Sång, first undid all of the edits I had made claiming a researcher cannot edit mistakes connected with their own research. When I complained about this undoing, Sång deleted all mentions of not only my name, but the credits to all authors I listed as candidates, including Percy, who Wham2001 had previously included. My edits were essential bibliographic corrections to comply with Wikipedia citation style. It is erroneous to credit only Percy and not the other four authors I attribute with different "Shakespeare" texts in Volumes 1-2 of my Series, Re-Attribution of the British Renaissance Corpus. I am a "subject-expert" in this field, as I have previously published two scholarly books with McFarland (Rebellion as Genre and Formulas of Popular Fiction). I would very much like to understand the rules of editing on Wikipedia, so I can make other changes that my research has corrected in the errors with the current British Renaissance attributions; but it seems that Sång's intention is to censor my research, and not to make sure accurate information is communicated. The data regarding who I credit as authors of specific texts (including the corrections I am making to this "Shakespeare" authorship page) is available for free to the public here: It cannot be impossible for a researcher and subject-expert to make edits on Wikipedia regarding the subjects one is an expert in; the rules you cite are vague as they do not forbid the mention of all self-published books, nor do they forbid all self-citation; I followed the rules as they are written. The goal is editing the relevant pages with truthful and accurate information, isn't it? So why would any Wikipedia editor choose to delete accurate bibliographic edits? The retaliatory deletion of all mentions of me and my research in return for my complaints of unfair failure to accept an accurate edit is also extremely malicious and clearly cannot be compliant with Wikipedia's intended rules. So far the first response I received in the talk-page on this subject is that my findings are not yet famous enough to be mentioned because I have not been discussed in the "Guardian"; this is an absurd reason for the exclusion, since Wham2001 found out about my research, perhaps from the 651 comments about it on LibraryThing: Faktorovich (talk) 21:59, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

tl;dr. FOllowing BRD, please open a discussion on the article's talk page, and ping the editors involved. Remember that Wikipedia works by consensus, and if you have differences with other volunteer editors you need to engage them in dialogue, which a wall of text tends not to do. --ColinFine (talk) 22:18, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @Faktorovich: Hi there! The goal of editing should be to summarize/paraphrase information found in multiple independent reliable sources. When an editor uses their own self-published source, they sometimes have a different goal. WP:SELFPUB is a section of Wikipedia:Verifiability and WP:SELFCITE is a section of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest - both of which are very important. (Obviously I don't know you and won't pretend to know your goals.) Per the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, I'm glad you're discussing this issue on the article talk page. You may find it helpful to switch tactics and focus on suggesting specific content changes on the talk page, and invite Wham2001 to join the conversation as well. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 22:21, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
@GoingBatty: This seems to be the exact opposite of what happened -- a completely different person added the citation. All she did was change a formatting error, so I do not understand how she was using her "own self-published source" for anything. Sure, a couple of inlines to the source were added, but it was already in the article and it was already being used to back up content present there. jp×g 06:37, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Well, she changed the citation from one self-published source to another one in one list entry, and she also added several new entries to the list, all of them sourced to the same book. Both the original addition by an uninvolved editor (who probably didn't realise that the Anaphora source was a SPS) and Faktorovich's first edit to change the reference and add new entries were clearly good-faith edits that simply did not meet the sourcing criteria for that list article. The important thing here is to clarify to her why self-published books should not be used as sources, especially in an area where there is already lot of reliably published scholarship, and especially in an area so fraught with controversy that there are discretionary sanctions in effect. --bonadea contributions talk 10:54, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

I have engaged in a discussion on the article's talk page, and have gotten the editors involved. I have added overwhelming citations/ proof of the content's accuracy and my credentials as a subject-expert. I don't know if any quantity of evidence is capable of convincing these editors to see reason. This is why I have also posted this problem here to open the discussion to Wikipedia's broader community. "Dialogue" does not improve if either side says shorter bits of text, but rather should only improve when anybody has a "wall of text" in support of their position. If there is no equivalently-sized "wall" of textual evidence for the opposing position; then, the bigger and more accurate wall wins; if the contest is fair and rational. My goal is to communicate truthful attributions for the British Renaissance; just because I am the researcher who has arrived at these truths cannot mean that I cannot edit citations that incorrectly interpret my assertions. There is no room for me to include a wall of citations to support my findings on this "Shakespeare candidates" page; I have included the precise number of citations as all of the other candidate entries, but mine are being censored. I would be delighted to invite Wham2001 and all others involved to the conversation, I assumed that mentioning Wham2001's name achieved this. Assuming the editors will not make any further replies to me on the "Candidates" page, I hope somebody on this page will actually look up this discussion and my points above and will actually respond to the concerns I am raising here to invite all editors across Wikipedia to comment on this question of accuracy and fairness that is important to all editors. Faktorovich (talk) 23:29, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the mention – I have replied on the article talk page. Best, Wham2010 (talk) 09:32, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
@Faktorovich: Mentioning a person's username in plain text - e.g. just typing Wham2001 - does not notify the user of conversation. Using {{ping}} will do so, as I have done here to notify you of my reply. Using {{U}} as we did above also works, but formats the output in a different way. See Help:Notifications for more information. Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 19:49, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

January 27Edit

Userboxe not going to correct location (Editing/Potential CSS issue?)Edit

Hello! I was trying to create my user page, but the English box won't move to be directly below the Korean box. Could someone help me fix this? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SatireisUnderrated (talkcontribs) 01:23, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

If you want to put your userboxes into a column, try surrounding them with {{userboxtop}} and {{userboxbottom}}. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:28, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Citations: are they supposed to link to the place of publication?Edit

Hello! There are over 900 articles on Wikipedia that cite publications by Collector's Guide Publishing. Each of the references includes a link to Burlington, Ontario, meaning that its WhatLinksHere is overwhelmed.

I see minimal issue with the author or publisher being linked to, but are the place of publication supposed to be? I was going to try and create a List of people from Burlington, Ontario, but there's just such a high noise ratio. -- Zanimum (talk) 03:43, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

@Zanimum: I don't know a guideline against the links but you may be interested in User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js. On Burlington, Ontario it produces Source links. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:14, 27 January 2022 (UTC)


How do I put a link of my Korean Wikipedia account to my user page?--시험공부바이바이 (talk) 10:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Try ko:사용자:시험공부바이바이 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 10:07, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
@시험공부바이바이 forgot to ping you! Sorry. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 10:07, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
@Timtrent:Thank you!--시험공부바이바이 (talk) 10:12, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
@시험공부바이바이 Interwiki like are easy if you know the inter wiki code. It is also always best to copy the article name from the target wiki. You are very welcome. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 11:32, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

"PRINT <"P">"Edit

Does PRINT <"P"> have a particular function in MediaWiki markup? It was added to Proxima Centauri b here and I am not sure if it serves a purpose or is just vandalism. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:49, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: It serves no purpose and should be reverted. I don't know whether it was vandalism or a misguided attempt to do something unknown. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:58, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Seems like another editor dealt with it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:07, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

About MobileUndoEdit

I brought the code of mobileundo. Code is here. But MobileUndo doesn't work. What happened? KeySpace / Talk 13:58, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

@DannyS712: I think you know how to solve this problem, so I'm ping. If you are not familiar with this matter, I'm sorry. KeySpace / Talk 14:02, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
I'm not maintaining that script anymore, but in this case I think the issue is the "adding:" line you have in your code that isn't a comment DannyS712 (talk) 20:49, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
How do I handle the 'adding:' part? KeySpace / Talk 23:27, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
I use MobileUndo in kowiki. But kowiki's MobileUndo is Translate into Wikiwater2020. KeySpace / Talk 23:30, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Redirecting talk page of existing articleEdit

Sorry, maybe a stupid question as it would not be done in my home wiki, but is it an accepted procedure to have a talk page redirected while the article exists? More precise, is Talk:BMI_Healthcare (or better here: ) expected behavior or something that needs fixing? --Fano (talk) 14:52, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Taking a look at that, it appears that for whatever reason, the talk page of BMI health care redirects to General Healthcare Group, however BMI Health Care and General Healthcare Group are (currently) 2 separate articles. I don't see any logical reason to have the talk page, redirect to a completely separate page (even if GHG owns BMI). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:58, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
INterestingly, GHG is said to be the owner of BMI, however in the history section it talks about BMI as if it were the same company. I'm a bit confused as well now. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
The quality and how up to date the two artikes are is also a interesting question, but I found the talk page construct particular odd.--Fano (talk) 15:05, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
@Fano: I agree. It's rather confusing already since I can't tell if GHG is a separate company from BMI or if GHG is BMI before they renamed themselves to BMI. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:08, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

@Fano: @Blaze Wolf: the article history often explains this kind of problem. I hope the summary below makes sense

  • 11 June 2007‎ BMI Healthcare article created
  • 17 May 2011‎ BMI Healthcare article (and talk page) moved to General Healthcare Group over redirect
  • 4 March 2014‎ BMI Healthcare redirect converted into an article, talk page blanked but then reverted to redirect
  • 27 January 2014 2021 BMI Healthcare talk page created by myself. TSventon (talk) 15:33, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
@TSventon: That does indeed help, although it is messy. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:36, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
@Blaze Wolf:, yes it is messy, perhaps the articles could be merged if somebody wanted to investigate further. User:SP.Black seems to have been a single puropse account, which recreated BMI, redirected the GHG article to the BMI article (later reverted), made enough edits to be autoconfirmed, uploaded the BMI logo and then stopped editing. TSventon (talk) 16:03, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
@TSventon: I might do that later if I'm feeling up to it. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:05, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! Must have been blind not seing the move. But in a nutshell it explains and answers how it happend and that it is not how it should be. --Fano (talk) 03:14, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

allegations need to be addressedEdit

Apparently wikipedia has been called out as denying actual facts from being included in comments .[citation needed] You need to address this .[citation needed] I think as a user this is awful and dangerous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

We cannot respond to a general complaint. If there is a specific situation you are referencing, please tell us. You may also wish to read WP:TRUTH. Wikipedia does not deal in truth, as truth is in the eye of the beholder. Wikipedia deals in what can be verified, leaving the readers to determine what is true for themselves, by evaluating and judging the sources provided. 331dot (talk) 19:04, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
In other words, we are not sure what you mean. Please be a little more specific: for example, called out by whom about what? Britmax (talk) 20:03, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages for lowercase/capital lettersEdit

I was surprised to find Nimr (disambiguation) and NIMR (disambiguation). I thought it is standard to use unified disambiguation pages for all lowercase/capital letters variations in the English Wikipedia. Is this correct as-is? Why / Why not? --KnightMove (talk) 22:06, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

AFAIK, there's no real guideline. I generally merge them if they're this small; also, there are some unacceptable entries in Nimr. I'll get around to it later if you don't. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:03, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Possile copyright violation?Edit

While writing the German article for New Century Theatre I stumbled upon this page [1] with exactly the same text. The creator of the wiki-article has been blocked for copyright infringement and the HTML of the webpage seems fairly old so I'm leaning towards the webpage beeing the original.

Since I don't know nothing about the workings of en.wp (and frankly don't have time to learn) I just leave this here in case it interests somebody. --Scantasyundfiencefiction (talk) 22:38, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for raising this. Mathglot (talk) 01:04, 28 January 2022 (UTC)


In Steelton-Highspire School District, I'm trying to have columns with both a specified column break and a specified width. The article had been using {{col-begin}}, which was causing the two columns to each be 1/2 the page with, forcing it to start under the infobox leaving a big block of white space. I changed it to {{col-float}}, which helped (the white space is gone, but the columns are still too wide and the depending on the page width the layout is still inconsistent). I know with {{div-col}}, you can specify a width but you the breaks are completely dynamic. This article has column headings, so the breaks have to be in a certain place. It there a way to do this without converting to a table? MB 23:41, 27 January 2022 (UTC)


What No 2022 Pro Bowl Logo Why Didn't You Upload it. 23:51, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

At this point I would say this person is just being a troll. They have been told multiple times how they can upload it and they've done nothing. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 23:54, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

January 28Edit

Why does wikipedia ignore facts and dismiss them as opinion or not true?Edit

This is not a opinion of mine i have seen it before as well as freinds where data from reliable sources or first account documentation from people during there time periods well the information gets deleted for not being factual or there is not a secound source to back it up. 2601:983:280:EF30:9544:542D:B278:C946 (talk) 04:09, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi there! It's hard to answer such a general claim, but it probably comes down to the quality of the independent reliable sources involved. If you have a concern about a particular article, per the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, you start a discussion on the article's talk page to work with other editors to come to a consensus. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:15, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
For example, we don't accept purported first-person accounts as reliable sources; we need content sourced to actual published articles in publications which exercise quality control and editorial supervision. --Orange Mike | Talk 05:42, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Can you please give us an example where "data from reliable sources" was "deleted for not being factual"? It will allow for a much more constructive conversation if we can look at a specific example.--Gronk Oz (talk) 12:33, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
First, Wikipedia has a parochial definition of reliable source, and does not include first hand accounts.
Second we (TINW) are individual editors, operating under wiki guidelines that are often subject to interpretation. You will get better feedback if you identify the specific articles, editors and issues that you are referring to.
Do I like all of the policies? No, and I've stopped writing large articles because the lack of an effective dispute resolution mechanism allows some editors to create a hostile work environment. But they are what they are, and I have to make edits in accordance with them. --Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 17:30, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Spousal categoriesEdit

Should wives/husbands be in their spouses' eponymous categories? What about former wives/husbands or partners? Thanks, Sod25 (talk) 06:55, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Can you give a specific example? I can think of relatively few people who have eponymous categories. For some of them (e.g. Category:Bill Clinton) the spouse's article is in the category. For others (e.g. Category:Donald Trump and Category:Bill Gates) the spouse's or former spouse(s)'s articles are not in the category. Interestingly, although Hillary Clinton is in the Bill Clinton category, Bill Clinton is not in the Hillary Clinton category. I think it depends on the mood of who is doing the categorizing at any particular article. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 13:51, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

CS1 error: author has generic nameEdit

Can anyone please explain how to fix the error-message for instance at: Essence (magazine), footnote 21 (ref to ESSENCE Black Women in Hollywood: A Salute to Trailblazers at the Oscars) ?

Thanks, --Dick Bos (talk) 09:08, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Fixed with |author=((...)) [2] after looking at the help link in the error message. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
@User:PrimeHunter, Thank you very much for fixing this. I had seen the help link, but apparently I didn't understand it completely. But now I understand! If you know it, it's always very easy! Thanks again, and friendly greetings, --Dick Bos (talk) 08:03, 29 January 2022 (UTC)


2 questions: 1) Re: Wikipedia's "List of stage names"

  I have in my PC about 18000 stage names + birth names, i.e. approximately twice as much as are listed now on Wikipedia.
  What is the best way to upload this, because it would mean that the present list would have to be deleted.

2) I have compiled a dictionary of more than 140,000 English language medical abbreviations in alphabetical order with their explanations, i.e. more than you can find anywhere worldwide. It is written in Microsoft Word. Is this of interest ?

Have a great day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imthechief (talkcontribs) 13:48, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@Imthechief: Hi there! I suggest that you post your first question on Talk:List of stage names, and your second question on Talk:List of medical abbreviations. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:00, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Help- with my pageEdit


I am creating a page for somebody. I have created an account but can't figure out how to make sure the page has the person'a name. The page is:

I want to make the headline be his name which is: Leonard Barrack

How do you do that?

Thanks, RB — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbarrackcavalier (talkcontribs) 14:25, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@Lbarrackcavalier: Hello RB! First I must ask, is this person paying you to create the page? Regardless of whether or not they are paying you, you have a COI, which I linked to the policy explaining what to do when you have a COI. Second, if you are being paid, I suggest you read WP:PAID and disclose that you are being paid (if you don't you will be blocked). Finally, you would want to create the page at Draft:Leonard Barrack if they are deemed to be notable, instead of your userpage which isn't where drafts belong. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:28, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
You'll find advice at WP:Your first article, but first you need to satisfy yourself that the subject is notable in Wikipedia's terms, see also WP:NBIO. Also please see the advice against autobiography. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:31, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

What are discretionary sanctions?Edit

I've read through WP:ACDS multiple times, but I still don't have a concrete idea of what discretionary sanctions are. The closest I got was Any uninvolved administrator is authorised to place: revert and move restrictions, interaction bans, topic bans, and blocks of up to one year in duration, or other reasonable measures that the enforcing administrator believes are necessary and proportionate for the smooth running of the project. But isn't it true in general that admins can impose blocks and move restrictions regardless of whether the topic area is subject to discretionary sanctions? Rublov (talk) 17:39, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

They can't unilaterally place revert and move restrictions, interaction bans or topic bans. Regarding blocks: they can place blocks, but the main difference with ACDS blocks is that another admin can't unilaterally undo the block (it can only be undone by consensus at WP:AN or WP:AE, or by ArbCom motion). ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 17:43, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

How to align kit templates next to each otherEdit

In this section, the football kits don't align next to each other. Ideally, I would like the kits to be perfectly aligned, and the first row of the years between each other. Nehme1499 17:46, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@Nehme1499: the article uses a one-row table, each cell of which is a Football kit with a title. to get it to line up, use a two-row table with Football kit s in the first row with no titles, and put titles in the second row. -Arch dude (talk) 18:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Perfect, thanks! Nehme1499 19:28, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

How to create a wiki for myselfEdit

How to create a wiki page for myself — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:21, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Not a good idea. See WP:AUTO RudolfRed (talk) 18:28, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

The Ice Age Adventures of Buck WildEdit

Hello. I am ZX2006XZ. So, I have been working on the draft for The Ice Age Adventures of Buck Wild for some time now. Unfortunately, the draft has been in AfC purgatory, meaning that it has been declined and rejected several times despite significant coverage on the film itself. Can someone help me move the draft to its rightful articlespace, which is currently a redirect (see this link) as of asking this question? ZX2006XZ (talk) 19:02, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

The article has been rejected. I don't think anyone here will move it to mainspace for you. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:03, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
It's been declined eight times, and rejected three times. And now it's been submitted yet again. A likely outcome is that it will be deleted and salted, making it impossible to create it again. Maproom (talk) 19:18, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
@ZX2006XZ: Hi there! It appears that your draft was originally submitted WP:TOOSOON multiple times, and you were encouraged to submit it again after the film was released. Now that the film has been released, hopefully there will be more reviews from reliable sources that you could add to the draft. GoingBatty (talk) 19:44, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Help with draft articleEdit

Hi everyone. I am a new wiki editor (approx 1 month). I have drafted an article on monochrome astrophotography. I drafted all of this in a word document and then pasted it over to my sandbox. Is it possible for someone experienced to review it before I publish it? help would be greatly appreciated!

Link to my sandbox article:

Thanks, Starlights99 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starlights99 (talkcontribs) 19:09, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Starlights99: I suggest that you move it to draft (or ask someone here to do that for you) so that other editors are willing to help you with it; and replace "[source]" with links to actual sources. Others can help you with the styling etc. Maproom (talk) 19:22, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
@Starlights99: After you move it to Draft:Monochrome astrophotography and fix the sources, then add {{subst:submit}} to the top to have it reviewed. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:25, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
@GoingBatty: Would it be appropriate for me to move it to draftspace for them or should i let them do it? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:46, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
@Blaze Wolf: Looks like Theroadislong already moved it. GoingBatty (talk) 20:04, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Ah alright. Cause I was going to move it but was unsure if it would be appropriate for me to do so. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 20:05, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
It would be good if the draft could include a false-colour image such as those it describes (though this won't help it get accepted as an article). I don't know how hard it would be to find a suitable image without copyright restrictions. Maproom (talk) 09:44, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

how do i submit a draft ?Edit

How i can submit a draft ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pun89 (talkcontribs) 19:16, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@Pun89: HI there! It looks like you successfully submitted Draft:January 2022 Greek cold wave. GoingBatty (talk) 19:27, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

What exactly does this do?Edit

Hi everyone, I've been an editor on Template namespace for quite some time now, and it appears that {{{|safesubst:}}} is used extensively across templates, and I don't exactly know what it's purpose is. Most recently I spotted it at {{They}} but I can't make out its function. Can someone please help me figuring out exactly what it is? Thanks! ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 19:22, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@CX Zoom: Does the explanation at Help:Substitution#The_safesubst:_modifier help clarify it? RudolfRed (talk) 19:27, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
@RudolfRed: Are {{{|safesubst:}}} & {{safesubst:...}} the same thing? If yes, that makes a lot more sense to me now. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 19:53, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
@CX Zoom: They are not the same. {{safesubst:...}} performs the substitution as soon as the code is saved (unless something else deactivates it). {{|safesubst:...}} does not perform the substitution on the page where the code is saved, but it does on other pages which substitute the page with the code. See Help:Substitution#An example of recursion in action. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:31, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Could you please add my book onto the London Musicians Collective reference in to this Wiki entry. It is titled "The London Musicians Collective: An Obstinate Clot of Invention" by Trevor Barre. Limbic Books ISBN number 978-1-5272-6857-9. Thankk you.eEdit

Is this adequate information to add my book to the Wiki page on Free Improvisation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:19, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Trevor! To suggest an addition to the Free improvisation article, please post on the article's talk page: Talk:Free improvisation. Be sure to explain why this would benefit the readers of the article (otherwise it looks like you're just trying to promote your book, and Wikipedia is not a place for promoting your own work). GoingBatty (talk) 20:26, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello I'm needing help with a Gmail that's been hack n I have 2 other Gmail that the one that's hacked is the recovery Gmail for others I've got n I need to get into it plzEdit

Hello I need get my Gmail recovered it was hacked 3 mths ago n I have it as a recovery Gmail for couple my others gmails n I'm needing in to get gma Ii l bad 20:53, 28 January 2022 (UTC)Gina Campbell (talk)plz

We can't help you with anything other than Wikipedia related issues. If you used that account as your recovery email for Wikipedia then just change your recovery account. You are logged in to Wikipedia so you can do by changing your email under "Email options" in your User profile under your Preferences. Meters (talk) 20:59, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

How do page logs work?Edit

When I try to look at the logs for a page I created (John Wayne Bobbitt Uncut) it shows nothing. Other pages show who created and/or deleted the page. Am I doing something wrong? I am using this link. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 21:04, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@Polycarpa aurata: That log shows certain activities, but article creation is not one of them, and the article you mention has never been deleted. I think the log is working but none of the logged activities have happened to that page.
If you want stats on who created the page check
Access this for any article through history --> page statistics. Bluerasberry (talk) 21:38, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Bluerasberry, other page logs I have looked at show the page creation. Mine doesn't. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 21:50, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
It'll only show page creation if you are autopatrolled I believe. I've passed the article through WP:NPP Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 21:57, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, I can see that it says you "reviewed" it now, but it still doesn't show that I created the page or that I moved the page. What does "autopatrolled" mean? Polycarpa aurata (talk) 22:26, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
@Polycarpa aurata: Everybody gets a page creation log, also IP's (example). But the log is only at the title where you created the page: [3]. The move log only shows a page at the title it's moved away from: [4]. The move is in the page history of the current title but not in the move log. Autopatrolled is not relevant here but see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled if you are curious. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:11, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
Thank you, PrimeHunter! I get it now. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 03:30, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Tool for counting pageviews for created articles per usernameEdit

There is some tool hosted in the Wikimedia platform.

Give it a Wikimedia username, then it identifies every article that user has created, and then reports how many pageviews those articles have had since creation.

The result is a count of readers reached for any user's created new articles.

Can anyone refer me to that tool? Bluerasberry (talk) 21:34, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@Bluerasberry: Hi there! If you go to the bottom of Special:Contributions/Bluerasberry (or any other user's contributions page) and click the "Articles created" link. GoingBatty (talk) 00:43, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

editing page wit true infoEdit

Hello dear Wiki

I chaged true info in page UEFA European Championship becasue in Czecho Slovak national team 1976 were more than half players from Slovakia .
Why is there only Czech republic when Slovakia have same deserved like Czech republic. And Snowflake91 maybe dont belive true .
I dont know Wikipedia is for spreading true or no if no it waste time stay here.

Your Sincerely M. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Me-muro1 (talkcontribs) 22:26, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@Me-muro1: I strongly suggest you discuss this on the talk page, where you can find prior discussion on it at Summary table and map of winners and National teams in the summary table / conclusion voting. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:30, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Me-muro1 the proper place to discuss problems with a specific article is that article's talk page. In this case that would be Talk:UEFA European Championship. The people who have reverted you on that article also directed you to the talk page. Please engage with them there. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 23:31, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

January 29Edit

syntax highlight tag syntax?Edit

I've never used the syntax highlight tag. I found this by another editor elsewhere on the page. What is wrong with it?

" <syntaxhighlight>comm <( article1 | sort | uniq) <( article2 | sort | uniq)</syntaxhighlight>"?

I think it is putting the Help Desk into Category:Pages_with_syntax_highlighting_errors RudolfRed (talk) 01:21, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Needs a lang= attribute. See mw:Extension:SyntaxHighlight.
Trappist the monk (talk) 01:26, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks!! RudolfRed (talk) 01:31, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Creating a svg mapEdit

I want to replace old svg maps to an updated new version in some articles (Vaccine Maitri). Can someone guid me how to create a map in svg format, in that I can fill a colour in some specific countries? Thanks in advance! Dinesh | Talk 08:03, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Incorrect significant figuresEdit

Cotton candy#History says that the first commercial sale of cotton candy was offered "at 25¢ (equivalent to $7.2 in 2020) per box." This is wrong, because nobody ever writes "$7.2" without the second decimal digit. How can it be fixed? I don't know how to affect the way the template gives this information. I tried changing {{Inflation|index=US|value=0.25|start_year=1904|fmt=eq|r=2}} from "0.25" to "0.250" in hopes that it would give three significant figures, but it still said $7.2. I tried changing the last parameter from r=2 to r=3, but instead of giving three digits like I expected (7.20), it gave three digits after the decimal, $7.201. What can be changed to force it to give two digits after the decimal? (talk) 09:46, 29 January 2022 (UTC)