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February 24Edit

Ava Max' "Torn" music videoEdit

Who is the guy starring in the video for Ava Max' 2019 song "Torn"?--Hildeoc (talk) 00:09, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Comments in the YouTube video credit a model named Martin Ferrari. Good luck. Maineartists (talk) 23:55, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
@Maineartists: Yes, that's him! Thank you so much! Best wishes--Hildeoc (talk) 12:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Isn't it ironic that a Ferrari features in a video that might be considered a Fiat ad?  --Lambiam 13:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
How true!!! 😂🤣--Hildeoc (talk) 21:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

What is the average number of tattoos a person may haveEdit

What is the average number of tattoos a person may have? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowycake (talkcontribs) 23:35, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

If I'm reading your question correctly, "may have" does not mean "allowed" but simply "has": this article More Americans Have Tattoos Today than Seven Years Ago states 2. Maineartists (talk) 23:59, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
"Might have" works better. And it could depend on how you count them. Also, which type of "average" are you intending? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:08, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
How would you count a sleeve tattoo? They are often comprised of many tattoos that merge into one. Your question is not easily quantifiable. (talk) 05:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Here are some interesting statistics drawn from a sample of about 1000 Americans in 2019. Only 30% had any tattoos, so the mode is zero, but of those who have any tattoos the most common figure is 2. "The average number of tattoos that tattooed Americans report having is four", (my italics). As Bugs points out the word average is ambiguous, but I suppose they mean "arithmetic mean" here. In that case the arithmetic mean number of tattoos among all the people sampled must have been 1.2 if my maths is right. --Antiquary (talk) 13:41, 25 February 2021 (UTC) Damn! Just realized Maineartists provided the same link. --Antiquary (talk) 13:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Along with the previous clarifications... What does "a person" mean? Are you only including humans that are alive? Many dead and buried people have tattoos. Are you only including adults? It is extremely rare for babies to have tattoos. If you were to include all human bodies on Earth, I would expect the mean average to be between zero and one because I strongly suspect that significantly more than half the human bodies have zero tatoos. If you toss out anyone who is dead, toss out anyone under 18, toss out anyone who lives in a place where tattoos are illegal, toss out anyone who cannot have a tattoo for religious reasons, etc..., then you can ask "Of living people who have the option to have a tattoo, what is the likelihood that they have more than one tattoo?" and get a more reasonable answer to the general topic. A similar question, which I've seen answered in other places is, "Of people who have a tattoo, what percent have more than one tattoo?" It is a high number because once people have one, they are very likely to get another. (talk) 14:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm a person, and I have an average of zero tattoos. --Jayron32 14:15, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
When I was young, I was doing school work on the bus when a bump in the road jostled the bus causing my pen to jab into my lower leg. I have a blue dot in my right calf because of this. Does this count as a tattoo for the question at hand? --Khajidha (talk) 16:32, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Writing-implement tattoos (inadvertent or otherwise) are probably fairly common. For more than 50 years, I've had a dot on my hand where I accidentally stabbed myself with a freshly sharpened pencil, getting graphite dust under the epidermis. Deor (talk) 18:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
That de-pen's. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
I have little blue circles around my knee, shoulder, and under my hair on the right side of my head. About 50 years ago, when surgery had to be done in steps, military surgeons would mark spots with little blue dots. Over the years, they've become fuzzy blue circles. So, I could claim to have nine tattoos. (talk) 13:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

February 25Edit


The girl dancing in the middle from 1:37 - 1:53 is Taeyeon, I guess.

Can any Wikipedian tell me who is the girl dancing in the middle from 1:16 - 1: 36? She is also gorgeous! >///<

Thank you! Stringent Checker (talk) 16:43, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

The performance group is called "Girls' Generation". Expand the description of the video and there are links to their many social media pages. (talk) 17:47, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! I just checked but still could not certainly identify who is who among the group in the video. 😅 It seems to me that their makeup and hairstyles have varied from time to time and are often leading the trends in fashion! Stringent Checker (talk) 04:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
The video is dated March 2014. A line-up is shown in the first image in the article List of Gaon Album Chart number ones of 2014, also dated March 2014, unfortunately not identifying the group members individually. Might she be Yuri, second left-to-right standing in the image in the article Girls' Generation, dated September 2015?  --Lambiam 09:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
I think she is the same group member as shown in close-up from 2:17 to 2:19 in this "Mr. Mr." video.  --Lambiam 10:02, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Lambiam Ahh, thank you so much, maybe you are right! My first intuition told me that the group member as shown in close-up from 2:17 to 2:19 is Taeyeon though. 🤣 And do you think this group member performing from 1:20 to 1:33 is the same as the one shown in the Dance Practice version from 2:00 to 2:10? I am not sure if they're the same because one of the two was wearing a surgical mask. Stringent Checker (talk) 07:35, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
I don't know. They all seem to have similar face types, neatly round, smooth and symmetric, without obvious distinctive features. Even so, I find it hard to believe that the image in our article on Taeyeon shows the same person as seen here – the difference appears, to my untrained eye, larger than that between Taeyeon and Yuri. And this looks – to me – as yet another person.  --Lambiam 11:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
I could not agree more with you!! It's pretty hard to believe that File:Kim_Tae-yeon_at_Incheon_Airport_on_August_29,_2019.png, a picture taken in late 2019 can differ that much from the one taken in January 2020. It feels like magic! I am curious if the picture was falsely named as Kim_Tae-yeon, or that cosmetics did the magic? (or if they have had plastic surgery?) Stringent Checker (talk) 13:22, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
I asked a question at Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Computing § Can Facial recognition system identify a person before and after cosmetics? in the wake of the astonishement. Stringent Checker (talk) 13:39, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
I take it that neither you nor Lambiam have much experience with makeup? Those all seem like the same person to me. I wonder what you would think about these two pictures of me: --Khajidha (talk) 15:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
By the way, I find fantastic! Thank you for being open-minded and sharing something about you with other Wikipedian. Also, thank you for letting me know this wiki! That makes my day! :D Stringent Checker [bargaining] 16:06, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
😲😲😳😳. Oh my god! It's surreal to me.😵😵👁👀 (I am a bit heartsick... So maybe Taeyeon along with others are not that beautiful as I previously thought? Okay, perhaps I should focus on the inner beautify such as a kind heart.) You are right. I am new to the area. 😆 Not sure if this is also the case of Lambiam. Stringent Checker [bargaining] 15:51, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Lambiam what do you think about this? How likely it is that cosmetics did the magic? Thank you. Stringent Checker [bargaining] 15:51, 27 February 2021 (UTC)


The article Fanny Simonsen has a portrait of the soprano in a style I find most attractive. It was lifted from a short-lived Australian magazine The Lorgnette, which ran a series of portraits of contemporary (1889—1890) artists. Some credit the original photographer, most don't. I've listed them in an embryonic article in userspace with links to the Trove copies. My query is, what technique/s were employed? Doug butler (talk) 18:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I think the reprographic technique may be leggotype, mentioned in Halftone § History.  --Lambiam 23:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, that's helpful. Doug butler (talk) 21:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

February 26Edit

how many tattoos does the average person haveEdit

Snowycake (talk) 23:55, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

How is this different from your previous question? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:22, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
That one was about the average number of tattoos on a person. This is about the number of tattoos on the average person. This is much easier: (1) find the average person; (2) count their tattoos.  --Lambiam 11:06, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Lambiam, surely you understand that "the average person" is a mathematical abstraction, and no actual individual can be identified as "average" in any particular characteristic without their measurement or count in that characteristic being already known and used to select them? I am struggling to assume good faith with this query. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 20:02, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
I was poking what I meant to be good-hearted fun at Bugs' question – which I assumed to be rhetorical. A more pertinent question (I think) is, if the questioner was (apparently) not satisfied with the earlier responses, why did they not react to them?  --Lambiam 12:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
This does get into the argument, does an average person exist? I believe that it depends on the population size. In my truck, right now, I am the only person. So, I am the average person in my truck. In my city, there may be a person who is average height, average weight, with average income, average education, an average number of kids (rounded to the nearest whole child, obviously). How do you handle categorical data? There is no "average" eye color because eye color is not numerical. You can look for mode and get most common eye color, most common hair color, most common skin color, most common gender, etc... I have thought about this previously because I believe that the chance of finding an average person increases with a smaller set size. The larget the population gets, the harder it is to find an average person. (talk) 14:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Since the OP didn't indicate on what measure we are signifying someone "average", I am exactly the U.S. average height for men. Given that I am, on at least one measure, an average person, I can report that I have zero tattoos. --Jayron32 15:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Seriously though, the OP seems to be searching for This information. --Jayron32 15:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Ah, you must mean this guy! No mention of any tattoos.... Martinevans123 (talk)

February 27Edit

A couple of old movies.Edit

What is the animated movie with a bunch of rats/mice on board a ship where I think they were coming to America? For that matter what was the old movie with the little girl picking some flowers for her aunt or mother? And what was the movie with a bunch of rabbits in it that a lot of people rented thinking it was a kids' movie but it was all violent and gory? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:46, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

The first might be An American Tail. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:22, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Watership Down (film) might be the third one. MarnetteD|Talk 02:55, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Is #2 also animated? Is its flower-picking scene central to the movie, or incidental? Do you recall anything else either about that scene or the rest of the movie? Was this "old movie" color or black and white? -- ToE 14:49, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Doesn't Howl's Moving Castle start with some flower picking? It's been a long time since I've seen it. Alansplodge (talk) 17:12, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Frankenstein had a girl picking flowers. So did Heidi for her grandfather. Really need more information for that one. Rmhermen (talk) 20:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

February 28Edit

Cricket spelling questionsEdit

The article Finger spin uses the words "wristspin", "fingerspinners", "backspinner", "off-spinbowling", "offspiner", "off-spindelivery". Are these all correct or are there spaces missing from some or all? I see we have e.g. wrist spin. -- Beland (talk) 04:42, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Surely, "offspiner" is a typo for "offspinner". Our article Off spin uses the spelling "off spinner" – however, as a term referring to the bowler, and not to their bowling technique. Another spelling is "off-spinner". Curiously, Top spin redirect to Topspin, but Offspin redirects to Off spin. I expect you can find all versions (written together, with a space, or hyphenated) in newspaper sports articles. Personally, I'd write "off-spin bowling" and "off-spin delivery", not "off-spinbowling" and "off-spindelivery", but for the verb I'd use a one-word version, as in "I wish I was able to offspin as well as Bilal Asif" (just an example sentence, not an actual wish of mine).  --Lambiam 10:56, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
English compound says: "Usage in the US and in the UK differs and often depends on the individual choice of the writer rather than on a hard-and-fast rule; therefore, open, hyphenated, and closed forms may be encountered for the same compound noun, such as the triplets container ship/container-ship/containership and particle board/particle-board/particleboard" (not much help I'm afraid).
I couldn't find any guidance in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style, but I believe that you can't go too far wrong if you follow the sources. Alansplodge (talk) 13:13, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

March 2Edit

Long-shot song identificationEdit

Hello all, this is a really difficult question.

Can anyone tell me what song plays in the background of this clip? (For the record, the two hosts are listing all the home runs hit in MLB that night.) The melody of the background music starts at about 0:55, and the song is looped in the background. For the record, I've heard the song played elsewhere, on ESPN I believe, but I haven't been able to locate those recordings.

I would be greatly impressed and appreiciative if anyone could provide any information.

User:Heyoostorm_talk! 14:52, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm having a REALLY hard time hearing it, but perhaps it's a theme from This Week in Baseball a popular highlight show that ran for a long time. --Jayron32 16:44, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I can't hear it, but I'm absolutely certain it isn’t the theme song from TWIB. Seared into my brain. -- (talk) 18:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Sorry, were you saying it isn't a theme from TWIB? Thanks to both of you for replying. User:Heyoostorm_talk! 23:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

What is the difference between a guitar and a ukelele?Edit

What is the difference between a guitar and a ukelele?

Some sites say its the size, but a guitar and a bass guitar have different sizes and arent different instruments, an bass saxophone and a tenor saxophone will have different sizes and aren't different instruments. They talk also about different tunings for the string, but I can tune my guitar strings with a different tuning and this wont be inventing a new instrument.... 2804:7F2:68C:C9BA:9918:266A:7CA0:F8B5 (talk) 22:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I would start by reading our articles guitar and ukelele. Off the top of my head, the ukelele is generally smaller than the guitar, has four strings instead of six, and its strings are tuned quite differently. --Thomprod (talk) 02:36, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

March 3Edit